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the "raptor" is Yamaha's line of Sport atv's, (utility atv= racks, 4x4, sport= go fast +jump) started as a 660cc quad, now they have a 700cc and have blessed some of the smaller quads with big brothers succesful name, anyways, big motor goes fast, lots of fun.
Yep, go jump, have fun, sand, dirt, snow...it's all good!! I've got the lil older version (04) 660 Raptor, but just blessed the kid (17 daughter) with the smaller version in a 350cc. What a kick!
Laws are starting to eliminate the 2 stroke versions and MOST are respectful of their surroundings. Laws are threatening to eliminate the sport and not give us anyplace to play, but supporters of the sport are in big numbers, so I'm not sure if it would ever completely go away, but shrink the areas of which we play. hehe, didn't mean to make that rhyme!?
Hi everyone,
I'm Christine and I took the class on Dec 6-7. I currently live in Berlin but plan to build in Sweden. Together with my husband I have a small independent record label. I love being my own boss! Currently and I am looking for land, researching, and collecting materials and trying to decide if the the home will be off-the-grid or not.
Christine
Welcome LHBA Christine!
Congrats and good luck in Sweden. For inexpensive remote land, look in northern Sweden.
Kola
Hello, my name is Gerrit and I live in Flagstaff, AZ. I have been checking out this site for a while and find it very interesting. We are looking to build a log home sometime in the future. I enjoy building and doing stuff myself instead of paying others to do it for me. I have always had more time than money so that is why this site and concept is very appealing to me.
We have 2.5 acres outside of Flagstaff and plan to build on that. Problem is, there are no trees on our lot. We live in a very large Ponderosa Pine forest with a lot of logging operations currently going on. I was wondering if Ponderosa Pine would be a wise species to build a log home with. I was also wondering if there were any other members who live in AZ.
While reading over the County P&Z regulations, the logs have to be certified to a certain moisture content. I don't know if this will hinder my aspirations or not. Anyways, thanks for all of the great info and look forward to learning a lot more in the future. If things pan out and it looks like I will be able to build on my lot like I am hoping, I will definitely be taking the course sometime in the near future.
-Gerrit
Hi everyone...
I am Joanne and i just enrolled James (my husband) in your upcoming class for Feb 14 & 15, 2009 and we are excited. Building our own log home has been a dream of ours for a very long time . We purchased 8 acres of land with 4 existing homes on it that were actually milled from tree's on this land and they were built in the 40's here in Indiana. The houses needed remodeling and we specifically purchased this land to build that log cabin. I have been searching idea's for quite some time on the web for more "efficient" means of doing this and found your site. SO, thanks....for offereing these classes, from what we have read from everyone, looks like we will be half way there .
yes, ponderosa would be fine, if you have it and it meets the taper/slow growth criteria recommended by the association.Quote:
Originally Posted by flagxj
Yes, there are arizonans in the association. I don't know of a state that doesn't have a member in it, or nearby. Surely every region is covered.
now the question(s)
The county regulates moisture content? I have heard of "grading" requirements, but moisture seems excessive. The reason that this hampers you (us) is we generally build with green logs. Drying takes a cover, time, and is mostly un necessary. If you have to build with that regulation, you might look at fire/beetle killed logs, as they will be dry in a year or two from death (in AZ). If it is an association that is pushing this reg on you, you might apply for a deviation. You might anyway, as we would generally find that regulation un-necessary.
-Peter
My mom's name is Joanne. Dad called her "Jo;" I call her "Mom." Not that that is pertinent, but hey, you'll soon be a member. We'll be getting to know eachother quite well.
Using your own trees will save you some cash, but maybe not as much as you think. A raw tree is really not that expensive. $200 (or less) would get a REALLY NICE tree trucked to your place. I value local trees just to say "these are local logs." If I can use my own even better.
In the class, you'll learn all sorts of cost cutting (but not quality cutting) methods to build cheaply. Congratulations on taking the first step.
-Peter
Thanks for the information. After re-reading it, if the logs are more than 19% moisture you have to show that you have compensated for the settling of the home. It does also require that all of the logs are graded and stamped by a certified lumber grading agency. After re-reading this a few times, it sounds do-able but I will probably have to get the logs graded and stamped (which may cost extra money). Anyone else deal with this? What does it take to get the logs graded and stamped and who would be a certified lumber grading agency?
I was planning on checking with the local logging company to see if I could purchase some logs from them. Still in the planning stages. . . I just want to make sure I can do this before I get into it too deep.
Here is a link to the log home spec. sheet that outlines the requirements:
http://www.coconino.az.gov/uploadedFiles/Community_Development/Log_Home_Specifications.pdf
Does this look normal for county regulations where everyone else is building? I live in a development without a HOA. : )
-G
Welcome Joanne and James. The property you are talking about sounds very familiar, I believe we looked at it last winter. Is it right across from the Blackman farm? If so I am very nearby. Roger was telling me about the people that bought it and I told him to give you this site ( not sure if he did) but welcome. If you have any questions just ask Roger for my number. We ended up with land just east of Logansport and will be starting to build this spring.
Travis
sounds like you came to the right place!Quote:
Originally Posted by flagxj
1) wall logs (most of them) don't need to be graded, per 1)
2) you have to "account for settling" per 2b). Thats easy, there is none, except on the caplog/ridgepole that will result in any settling. This is minor, and approximately the same--no structural impact. Find yourself a good engineer familiar with our methods and get him to write a letter to that end.
It sounds like a set of stock plans from the association reviewed and augmented with species info from a PE would satisfy them. The discount on the plans would pay for your membership fee, and possibly the trip up (incl room and board).
-Peter
Thanks Travis,
yes, you are right..and no, roger didnt give me this site, i was just skipping around and found it and liked the response it was getting, and it's pretty cool actually that you picked up on this being the property you looked at, i think Roger was telling us about you too, I remember him talking about a travis,...not bad ofcoarse, Roger is a good guy, we really like him. We love this property also, and have done alot to the inside of a couple of the houses, two are ready to rent. We will get your number from Roger, and give you a call....Thanks for your response. Keep in touch
Peter,
Yeah, if at all possible we want to check out the situation on using tree's from the land, but no, do not want to cut quality, forgot to mention we have 8 kids, so we do know how to cut some corners without cutting others...
and thanks for the welcome
I am sure James will love the class. Ellsworth and Steve are great instructors. The class has really changed my perspective and alot of things. Best money ever spent. The real treat is the members section after class. I really loved your property, tons of potential. I was just there getting firewood saturday, pick up a load nearly every week. Feel free to call anytime, I am off work till Jan 20th.
Roger was here today, gave us your number, we will give you a call tomorrow and formerly introduce ourselves, have a good nite.
Look, listen and learn
A man who works with his hands is a laborer,
A man who works with his hands and his head is a craftsman,
A man who works with his hands, his head and his heart is an artist.
St Francis of Assisi.
Hey did you get out the lot much and geter done yet.
I still in Ohio i about ready to take off soon got get back to Va and clear the land. Did you save those used tires for me ahha just messing with you
Was out there most of the day today. I am sure we could get lots of tires stacked up in the back of your truck. hahaha.
When ya heading back? Have a safe trip.
Look, listen and learn
A man who works with his hands is a laborer,
A man who works with his hands and his head is a craftsman,
A man who works with his hands, his head and his heart is an artist.
St Francis of Assisi.
Ow i am bored and ready to head back i think Monday.
I dont know they keep calling for frozen rain it time to get back to warmer VA.
So how far along are you on the clean up.
Hi all,
My wife and I took the class back in the Spring of 2004, if my memory serves correctly. Skip was still the instructor at that time. Steve was there as well, I think he was the first volunteer staff member.
We moved back to the Northwest in 2008. We haven't moved forward with building a log home as of yet, but we are finally back in the area we want to build a log home in.
Looking forward to becoming more involved in the LHBA community.
Kevin and Tami Marshbank
Hey Chad if you are bored come on over I have plenty to do to keep you from getting bored. HAHA
Hi everyone I'm located in south central Washington and I'm going to sign up for a class as soon as my work schedule allows. I 've been reading the site and forums for sometime now and I can't wait to get to a class and get this adventure started as I have dreamed of building my own log home for as long as I can remember and up until I found this site I was starting to wonder if it was possible.
Chad,
you are darn tooting it is possible. Dick Proennekke did it in his 50's, alone. tens of thousands of pioneers did it. Jusd decide what you want and what you need. If you decide you need 30,000sf, a log structure is not for you. If you think you can live in less than 3,000, you can do it. Very possibly without a mortgage.
Anyway, I used to work for a company in Yakima, and have lots of friends there. I get there once or twice a year. I'm building in NE/NC washington and will be making a blog similar to what so many members have already done to chronicle my experience.
give me a shot to stressman79@hotmail.com if you want to talk more.
-Peter
post in the members area, and I'll give you my contact info (or you can just scan the posts--there are several with phone number etc). Glad to hear you are in WA. I am planning on a massive undertaking next spring/summer. If you are in the area, you are very welcome to stop by.
-Peter
Feel free to call anytime. I am off work until Jan 20th. I think it is great that someone else will be building so close.Quote:
Originally Posted by joey6365
Stressman, Thanks for the welcome, it's nice to find a place with like minded folks. My wife and I have been working hard to get out of debt and get back to a simpler life and finding this group just gives us more insperation. I just signed up for the Feb. 14th class and am really looking forward to it. I'm in Goldendale about an hour and a half soth of Yakima on 97.
hey Brett ... You are going to love the class. Very intense ... a lot of info in a short amount of time. At the end of the day I was tired but lucky to be staying at Wallace Lodge. A beautiful place and the fellowship that developed between everyone that stayed there was special. Maybe I get around to writing up "THE WALLACE LODGE FIRE-PIT STORY!" (fire & firewater don't mix!). I am looking for land in the south central, south east part of the state. Loved my summers there at the S-F Scout ranch in Iron County. All the best! Bob
Hi Christine, Glad to finally learn your name after talking with you at the Sunday dinner ... I'm Bob the older bearded guy who couldn't keep from asking questions all through class. I wish more people had come back to the lodge after the close of the sunday session. Guess everyone needed an invitation. The on/off grid is something I am looking at too. Resale is a big consideration. Cheers, Bob
Hello everyone;
Just a note to share my sincere and strong desire to build my own log home one day soon. Well, perhaps not single-handed but certainly willing to do as much as she can smarter versus harder. This does not inhibit me in anyway. Have experience with power tools, know how to measure, am quite resourceful, and don't put any stops to accomplishing my dreams. With this said i can't wait to take the first class and any more to learn all that i need to accomplish this. Oh, by the way not only is the log home very appealing and nurturing but can't have one without the stone throughout it as well.
Kudos to all of you whom left a bit of warmth and love on earth, that came with erecting these legacys we call "Home Sweet Home". BTW: Open to any and all suggestions, experiences, trial and errors, etc. Thank you all, and best of wishes.
Nancy Elizabeth