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Hey Ken,Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenneth Griepp
I don't have the answer to your question handy right now. But your post is buried here in the "Introduce Yourself" thread in the non-member forums. You aren't likely to get the answer you need here - the right folks probably just won't find your post here. You should post your question in the Member section.
Don't give up hope about the possibility of them having another class this year. They put the same message back up after each class fills up that includes that bit about "no more classes this year". What that really means is that they don't have any PLANNED right now, and this way they avoid promising something and not delivering. But you should know that same message has been up each time, but they have had at least five or six classes this year already.Quote:
Originally Posted by mhuye
Be sure to sign up for email notification.
I will have to sign up for the newsletter.
I can't get out of Louisiana fast enough.
God Bless,
Michael
Dreaming of Montana, Asheville, Anywhere there are blue shadows on old mountains
Hey, drop by if you have time this summer. I'm much closer to the Canadian border than to the Gulf.
The winters are much colder, but the land is reasonably priced, and for the most part (see Toilet Henge
under POA) people leave you alone up here. It's just wonderful and I just hate to go back home to my
job. I love our new place.
-Rick
Hi, I am Melanie from Kalamazoo, MI. My husband "Banjoe" (Joe) and I really love hand hewn log cabins like you find in the Appalachian mountains...but I am intrigued by what I read about how long the style taught by the LHBA lasts. I can tell we have so much more to learn!
Wife and I have a plan we like, and I am doing as much research as I can so we can have it well thought out in advance and make use of everything we can to see that we have some sort of alternate power if possible. We are in MT right now, and plan to be here a while, so I pulled out the plan we have had going on three years and started looking into what it would take to get it done.
Hello to all,
I am finally building my log home. I attended the class just over two years ago and am excited to get going. I found logs about 75 miles north of my location and they started being delivered on 5/29, 176 logs total. I have about 100 peeled and 32 in place so far. I hope to have the walls, ridge poles and rafters done by the end of June. I look forward to sharing the progress.
I suspect that one of the reasons we see many hand-hewn cabins still standing is the quality of the wood they used. The original old-growth timber that Europeans found here in America was MUCH denser, higher quality wood than what is commonly available today. That's why in spite of the inherent weakness of the designs (cutting into the grain, not having sufficient overhangs on the roof, first course of logs too close to the ground) they are still standing. Another thing to consider is that if one takes a closer look, or attempts to restore these old classics, they usually do find significant rot, especially in the bottom courses. It's a testament to the building method that this rot doesn't cause the house to fall down! But hand-hewn is an inferior design vs. the butt and pass method as taught by LHBA, if judging purely by longevity of the structure without maintenance.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrsbanjoe
The biggest advantage, however, to LHBA butt and pass method is it's SIMPLICITY. It's just plain easier to learn and do than more complex scribed or notched methods. Properly constructed scandinavian chinkless or hand-hewn dovetail cabins will indeed last for centuries. For me, joe-schmoe-suburban computer nerd who wants to simplify my life by building a log cabin in the country -- LHBA is the most attainable goal for me. After taking the course, I am sure that I CAN do this, and do it right, in spite of my lack of previous experience. I can't say that about other methods.
Congratulations on your progress! You should post some progress in the member sections, and let us know where you are. You might get some help from some of us newbies who can't wait to get started.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allen Holbrook
Way to go Allen, are you building in Louisville? I'm about 3 hours south of you in Barbourville, Ky.
What type of logs are you using? 176 is quite a bit, how big is your home going to be?
Anyway, GREAT JOB !!!!
Gene....... :-)
[quote=Klapton]Not to disagree, because I do agree with both of those statements (full-scribe can last for centuries and computer nerds learn BnP faster).Quote:
Originally Posted by mrsbanjoe
But it almost sounds like you're saying "well when done right full scribe (scandanavian chinkless) will last longer than BnP, all other things being equal". And I disagree with that statment.
There is no way that cutting into the grain of your logs is going to work better than the BnP style. You have by definition reduced the structural integrity of the logs and you have opened them up to water damage. If you do a perfect job on your full scribe and chink really well you might avoid that stuff, but you get the same thing with BnP except you dont have to worry as much.
There is no doubt in my mind that BnP is a superior building technique to full scribe (chinkless).
I agree, Yuhjn. BnP should indeed last longer. Either method, done correctly, will be around long after both of us are dead.
Ragdump Hi my name is Howard I have land up in the Feather river country of Northern California,I've been clearing and cutting logs for awhile now got about 40 good size logs most 45 to 60 feet,plan on building a 30X40 cabin and a 30X50 work shop all out of logs. I've got a ways to go yet I found cutting and peeling your own logs is very hard work and I just have the weekends to do it for now
Welcome Ragdump! Sounds like you've got a good start. It's not uncommon for LHBA members to travel to help each other out, often for free. :)
My only advice to you would be to take the class as soon as possible! It's very likely you'll learn things that will change the course of your build for the better.
In fact knowing what I know now after taking the class I cringe to think what would have happened had I built before taking the class. :)
Wow! Someone planning to build in the same general area! I'm a big, big fan of Buck's Lake in Plumas County and I'm hoping to build between Quincy and Buck's, maybe Meadow Valley? The whole Feather River Canyon is beautiful. I haven't had the chance to take the class yet either. I also want to do a large workshop. I'm hoping to take the class by the end of the year, if things work out in other areas.
Here's a photo of the model of my shop.
The model is now at the LHBA headquarters
in Monroe. Planned to build this but hit water
at about 6' into the ground. Had to move the
shop and change the design.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qox2x5exMuo
Fast forward to 3:54
-Rick
Ragdump Tanderson, if you know where Ragdump is I'm just across the canyon,I've had my place for awhile now and have done alot of improvements and like I said collecting logs,I want to take the class before I start to build ,this is my meadow where I'm going to build
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...ragdump046.jpghttp://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...ragdump055.jpg
Thanks for the encouragement. I will post my progress in a couple of weeks in the members forum. I hope to have all the walls, RPSL's, and the two ridge poles up.
I am building just outside of Louisville in Brooks. My home is 32 x 60. I am building two 25 x 32 boxes with a 10 foot space between them for my foyer. The roofline will span the entire length, 70'. I am suprised at how much interest the project is generating. Word of mouth is bringing quite a few people by to see the building process.
Well, good day to all, I've been lurking here for quite a few years, before there was a forum to be exact. Well, finally had the freedom of time to attend the course, May 24-25. What a great experience, now all I can do is dream of building, I can hardly contain myself!!!
Oh, for the record, the name is Shawn Scrimshaw, most just call me Scrimmer for short, but since I wasn't able to use that username took the next best one!!!
First of all, hello to everyone. My name is Tim Wheat and I own about 80 acres in central IL and have dreamed of building a log house on it for many years. I finally start doing the research on it and find that I've missed all of the classes in which I could have learned so much! So, I'm gonna stick around here and hope that they schedule another class one of these days and try to soak up anything else I can in between. If anyone is anywhere near me and can give any advice it would be much appreciated. Thanks!!
Hi My name is Joe and I am in the Army in Iraq with 5 months left then gonna retire. When I get back I want to attend a class and build my log home on Lake McConaughy in Nebraska. The site is awesome almost sounds to good to be true, definately excited about the possibility.
Welcome, Joe! And thank you for your service to our nation! We will keep you and all our troops in our prayers for a safe return to the good, ole U S of A! I am new to this site, and am hoping to attend a class in spring or summer of 2009--saving the bucks for the class and trip first. No more credit cards! And you are right, this is a super awesome site! Keep us informed of your safe return, and hang onto your goals and dreams!
AnneG
Hi Tim Wheat! Welcome to LHBA! If you want to get in on the next class, be sure to sign the email notification form, so they will contact you when the next one is scheduled. As soon as I have enough saved to register for a class, I'm going to send my funds whether one is scheduled or not. I'm hoping that will give me first dibs on being notified. In the meantime, there is LOADS of info to glean right here from the different forums and comments. So . . . Welcome! Glad you've joined us!
AnneG
Welcome Joe, Tim and Anne, I signed up for the e-mail alerts, it was a God send!!! Worked like a charm!!!
Definiteley wait to take the course before building, you learn alot of valuable info, it helps. Good luck, and Joe, come home safe and sound!!!
Thanks OriginalScrimmer! And welcome to you as well. I was going to put off taking the class for several years, as it will probably take me that long before I actually get started. But then I saw that they recommend that you take the course 2 to 3 years BEFORE you are ready to build, so I am thrilled to be planning on attending in 2009! That should really help to keep me focused and to learn as much as I can BEFORE I'm actually at the building stage.
AnneG
Well here goes,
My name is Tom and I have been reading the forums here for about 6 months. I hope to be going to the class one of these days but it is difficult to get it worked into my schedual. I am a registered nurse but have a great deal of experience within the building trades. I have just about got the wife talked into the log home thing but she has been dealing with all my "wako plans" for 15 years already and it may be a hard sell. We are already working on the debt reduction side and have a 3 year plan all worked out, but we all know how those work out :-).
Seems to be a great bunch of people on here, I look farward to getting to know everyone a little better.
Tom
Welcome Tom, one recommendation, since your wife has "put up" with your ideas for 15 years, get her to the class too, if possible. I tried to get my wife to go, but unfortunately, with a 10 month old baby at home, another on the way (December) and her Passport having expired, things didn't work out, but she's on board for our log home...it's almost frustrating 'cause you really want to rush in and start building - the excitement is that strong!!!! But, as you'll learn in the class, it's best to wait until the time is perfect!!!
Good luck!!