View Full Version : Purchasing Land - Researching Building Codes
.FOSTER.
12-06-2010, 02:39 AM
Hello, everyone.
I was hoping that I'd be able to take the class before I signed up to ask any questions - as I know a lot of the fundamentals are covered in the class. Unfortunately, I will be moving/relocating soon (for work), and I have no idea when that will be (could be 2 weeks, could be 2+ months). I'm also trying to convince someone to go with me. Meanwhile, I will continue reading, looking at different LHBA homes and searching for suitable land online.
Which brings me to my question...
When searching for land, how important is it to research the building codes (or other?) for that particular area prior to considering said purchase?
I was thinking that 5-10 acres would be reasonable (maybe more - as I would like to have my family build on my land someday), and have found a few lots that meet certain, basic criteria - and are less than $1,000/acre (which is the limit that I set for myself).
Securing the land will probably be my first priority after taking the class.
Thank you.
Shark
12-06-2010, 05:22 AM
Buying property is a big commitment, so you should do enough research about it that you won't have any surprises down the road.
A simple phone call to the local county building/planning office, and in less than 10 mins you should have a good idea of what permits/regs you will need to build.
In our case, we needed a perk test on the land (for septic), we had the following inspections: footer, foundation, rough-in, and final.
These homes can be modified to meet pretty much any building requirements. Some area's require plans to be engineered/stamped, others don't.
Welcome to the group!
Jeff
.FOSTER.
12-06-2010, 05:46 AM
Thanks, Jeff.
Regarding any pre-build testing; this would have to be permitted by the current owner/broker if any such tests were required and had not been conducted, right?
Also, I was under the impression that the various building inspections (and how to adequately comply with them) will be covered/discussed in the course. Is that right?
Thanks, again.
Shark
12-06-2010, 06:02 AM
Things like a perk test (if needed) are usually written into your contract when buying the property, that way if it does not perk, you have the option of backing out without losing any $$. Same with if you need to drill a well, might be written in as a clause in the contract.
Yes, the class does give many tips/tricks to dealing with inspections. But the specific "hoops" you may have to jump through are still going to vary greatly, depending on the area you build. Not only state to state, but just being in a different county in the same state, can have large differences in what you need to follow.
We are in a county next to Indianapolis, so we had a decent amount of inspections, even though we're in the country so to speak. If we had been 1 or 2 counties farther out, there's a good chance there would have been less inspections. Something to keep in mind as you're looking for your land. Be sure to check if there are any restrictions on the property too that might limit what you can build.
.FOSTER.
12-06-2010, 06:40 AM
Thanks, again, Jeff. I appreciate it.
I know that much of this stuff will probably be discussed during and/or after taking the class...with the help of other members like yourself. I'm probably jumping the gun here...sorry about that (just excited).
-Foster
loghousenut
12-06-2010, 07:32 AM
Foster, After you take the class and are able to peruse the members side of this forum you will have access to vast discussions that have already happened concerning different member's experiences dealing with various Government agencies. Personally I have recently put the roof on our place and have had very positive dealing with our County inspectors. As mentioned, you'll get some tips from class but you'll be asking and answering questions on this forum for years.
PS. Wherever you live, if you could package up 10 acres of land at $1000 per acre and ship it out here to me in Southern Oregon I'd appreciate it. Welcome aboard.
.FOSTER.
12-06-2010, 07:59 AM
Thanks.
Yes, a big part of my motivation for taking the class is becoming a member and sharing the benefits of having a network of experienced and helpful people like yourself.
I'm currently in Missouri - where some land can be had for cheap. Unfortunately, I'll be moving to Ohio (near Akron) soon, and I have no idea about the place. I have never been there. I haven't seen any listings for cheap land available in Ohio either. I have seen listings for land in Southern Oregon that are cheaper than $1,000/acre (e.g. in Lake County & Klamath County). However, I think the land that is advertised is primarily high desert and remote.
Thank you, guys, for welcoming me and for the help.
-Foster.
loghousenut
12-06-2010, 08:10 AM
Foster, You're correct about some of the land in Klamath and Lake counties being priced right. I'd move to that side of the mountains in a heartbeat but the wife has an unnaturally severe fear of large concrete cows that gather by the side of the road north of Klamath Falls.
Inside joke... You'll have to get access to the members side.
edkemper
12-06-2010, 11:13 AM
Get whatever info you can from Ron now, I'm gonna get him for those comments about the concrete cow. <smile> Welcome to the fun.
loghousenut
12-06-2010, 08:49 PM
It's still an inside joke but now we have a photo of the giant scarey cow. For more info contact Ed Kemper hahahhhahahahhaHAha.
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t55/loghousenut/Wow/1198876548_abdd04a0c6_z.jpg
.FOSTER.
12-07-2010, 12:38 AM
I'm reluctant to comment on that.
edkemper
12-07-2010, 04:20 PM
When you see this "animal," you're at my place, generally speaking. Driving by, I always thought it was a cow. Maybe I need an intervention. <smile>
Mosseyme
12-07-2010, 05:53 PM
I'm no expert but the last I knew cows had hooves not toes. Rino with the horn knocked off maybe? Ha!
Log Al
12-07-2010, 06:03 PM
Mossey
Your Right, This Old Texas boy has seen enough hooves up close and personal to know that's no cow hoof.
Al
edkemper
12-08-2010, 02:14 PM
It's hard to note these details when you're driving by at 55+ mph. I'm gonna get Ron for this. hahahahahaha
Mosseyme
12-08-2010, 07:52 PM
Defense accepted. Now we will all be waiting for the payback!!! Go get em Ed. Ha,ha,ha LHN
ramblinman502
12-09-2010, 01:56 AM
LHN...i think its time to add another pic to the "why have a telehandler thread" that thing cant weigh more than your ridge pole. double dog dare ya. ( is Eds driveway wide enough? )
ramblinman502
12-09-2010, 02:18 AM
in Kentucy..n i think Ohio. on land thats 15 or more acres you can be considered farm exempt. which means as an owner builder you would need to have a perc test.. submit stamped plans...and have an electrical inspection. n thats pretty much it.
i saw an ad on CL for a 26 ac. "farm" east of louisville headed towards ohio. the guy put a new "log cabin" kit on the property. was willing to lease option it. pretty cheap. i was thinking it would be a great thing to grab. build a REAL cabin on. divide the property n then rent or sell both. you could live in one while you build the other. but im pretty booked up right now.
.FOSTER.
12-09-2010, 05:11 AM
Thanks, ramblinman502, that's good to know.
It will be some time (six months to a year) before we are in a position to secure any land. As of right now, our #1 preference is Minnesota. However, due to my work situation, I may get impatient and consider alternative States. We'll just have to see.
After purchasing our land, I'd like to build a small cabin/one-room cottage (or) a garage w/loft to live/sleep in while building the main cabin/home. I'd also like to do this for the experience/practice to ensure that the main cabin turns out better.
-Foster
Basil
12-09-2010, 05:25 AM
When i built my place here in kentucky, we didn't even need a stamped engineer's plan if we had more than 15 acres. Just pass electric and perc tests. now, you gotta pass code or be wet stamped...
Mosseyme
12-09-2010, 06:05 AM
INDRICOTHERIUM
Indricotherium (aka Baluchitherium) was a large, extinct, hornless rhinoceros. It was one of the largest land mammals., Me thinks warthogs have hoves too. But if it is to be a yard art piece for Ed it won't matter he can name it whatever he wants even COW.
.FOSTER.
12-09-2010, 08:24 AM
Considering what land is going for these days, and where we'd like to build, I just don't know if we'll be able to swing 15 acres (budget-wise). I was hoping to save up enough money to buy the land, outright, as opposed to leasing, because I wanted to have the freedom to set my own schedule and not have to worry about paying for anything until I am ready etc.
But...anything could happen, I suppose.
Thanks for the help.
edkemper
12-09-2010, 10:22 PM
> Indricotherium (aka Baluchitherium) was a large, extinct, hornless rhinoceros.
Really, or are you pulling my leg?
Timber
12-09-2010, 10:39 PM
land link
<a href="http://www.equine.com/property/search_results.aspx?PageNum=45&method=loaPropSearc h&state_id=56&price=0%2c10000000000&sqft=0%2c10000 000">http://www.equine.com/property/search_results.aspx?PageNum=45&method=loaPropSearc h&state_id=56&price=0%2c10000000000&sqft=0%2c10000 000</a>
Mosseyme
12-10-2010, 05:35 AM
Actually, out of curiosity I went looking on the net to see if there was such a thing as that and I couldn't find it anywhere I looked. I think someone with a good imagination created a beast that pleased them. However there was that one creature that was the only thing with toes that I could find of great size except the elephant. I think this may have gotten beyond the realm of log home building.
Or maybe it is a warthog or something and we are learning how to build a house the pigs will be safe in and the big bad wolf can't blow it down. It has been good for a laugh or two. Thanks LHN
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