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ChainsawGrandpa
07-24-2007, 08:59 PM
I'm sitting here at work. Behind me are two coworkers discussing the bids and actual costs of their homes that are being started, and almost finished. $35,000 for tile work, $8,500 for carpets, $3,500 for paint, $15,500 for plumbing, $1,500 for door knobs....(for door knobs!!??) My front door latch, pull, handle assembly, deadbolt is nice. Brass. Very expensive, and elegant. I just can't recall what I paid...$18? $35? Doesn't matter, I did see it on display in a store. YEOW! They want more for that assembly than my latch, door, jamb, trim, paint, and entry tile will cost. Much more!

My guest house was projected at something like $7,000. It has grown
in size, and the bulk of the spending is over, but the construction will
last another year. The project has grown in size and cost and I project
the final cost will be $17,000 for 830 square feet (about $21/ft) .
We both have: Oak and tile floors, glass block wall, high end windows.
They have things I won't have, biiiiiiig mortgage, high risk of loss when
(not if) the market falls...) but I'll have things they don't have (waterfall,
radiant heat floors, sound proofing, full custom cabinets...).

Maybe since we slow-down and get good prices, and use some of the
techniques Skip taught, it allows us to save money to the point of
stretching credibility. I was talking to a real estate agent about a log home and he said; "That's (price) is impossible! You're talking about building a home for the cost of an appliance budget!" My thoughts are; "Yes I can, and just how exotic are your appliances?"
My skill is that I just think like Skip, employ techniques he taught, and refuse to pay retail when someone is willing to sell it cheap or give it away. I just can't understand $250/ft. when I can build as nice or nicer for $15/ft. Hey, lets face it...building without a lender breathing down your neck, and seeing your dreams come true with your own hands is just a blast! Right now they're complaining that they have no life for a whole year while being your own general contractor. Building your own log home for cash adds to the fullness of life. Enjoy the ride!

Being in a hurry, and living off site has cost me at least $6.50/ square
foot. Up until I heard these guys talking I was upset with my wild
spending! In hindsight, if I had spent more time thinking, and less time
charging ahead to beat the short building season, a little more planning,
and looking to the future I could have saved as much as $4,000.

It seems that the total front-end of the building process is a lot like the
log catalog...the more time you spend in thought, and planning the more
time and money you will save.

Just my miscellaneous ramblings....

-Rick

The_Truth
07-25-2007, 06:01 AM
So well put Rick! That is what I like about what was taught. Simplicity or complicated....expensive or inexpensive (not cheap)....your choice. I will try to follow that plan as well. I do not have any major debt, my daughter turns 18 in Dec. I have been socking away money (but like you said, I have also been spending and in hindsight shouldn't have) so I can do it all with cash/barter/borrow...not steal!! :D

Even some of the people who have attended the class still pay full price for things, get construction loans, etc., and that is what I love about this country - it is your choice!!! Freedom baby, isn't it groovy!!! (said in Austin Powers famous voice). 8)

The class taught by Skip, Ellsworth, and Steve is good info which has helped me get started on the rest of my life!!! Seriously.

The Truth :D

grannyk
07-27-2007, 07:24 AM
My biggest battle with all of this is getting my husband to believe it can be done.
I am dying to take the classes ASAP and there is a 40 acre spot right next to our daughter's land going up for auction
on Aug 9th! It has about 35 acres tillable a small pond and small wooded area.
This would be so perfect for us!
I am so frustrated with him, but keep praying that God will turn his heart.
Any suggestions??????
BTW I keep looking for when the next classes will be offered and can't seem to find the schedule
on here anywhere. Does anyone know the schedule for the rest of the year?
Thanks in advance for any and all help!!!!!!!
Not sure if this link will work but here's the sale info for anyone interested.
http://sullivanauctioneers.com/08.09.07.Maas/auction.html

kenstudebaker
07-27-2007, 11:20 PM
Below are a couple sites i found that could help convice your husband. Both are the sucessful experiences of couples building log homes, & in neither case did they have prior construction experience.



<a href="http://www.taunton.com/finehomebuilding/how-to/articles/raising-hand-hewn-log-cabin.aspx">First site</a>



http://www.canarie.ca/~bstarn/logcabin.html
~KS

Shark
07-28-2007, 03:54 PM
grannyk,

Obviously buying land and building a home is something that has to be agreed upon by all family members.

I'm willing to bet if he took the class with you, he'd be convinced.

If not, they have the money back guarantee, but I don't think you'd need it.

There isn't any classes right now, so I'd suggest keep checking the main page for updates, or try e-mailing them, they may have an idea when the next classes could happen.

kyle
07-29-2007, 06:43 AM
Grannyk,

As shark said above no classes are scheduled which has been the norm the past couple years during the summer months. They have been offering the classes in the fall, winter, and spring seasons. So keep looking and hopefully you'll have an opportunity to attend one of the classes soon and also convince your husband!