Specialist tools for handcraft log

[maikz]

Hi, i did some research in forum and couldn't find much. Does anyone knows some company or webpage that does specialist tool for handcraft log building. Or maybe u have something what u can't by from shop(done by blacksmith etc.), it would be very kind if u can share your information. Thanks.

[Kola]

Hi!
What type of loghome are you building/ (saddlenotch, butt and pass etc)
What specific tools are you looking for? (ie drawknives, adz, pulleys, etc)

Most LHBA folks build B&P homes.

Try doing a google search for a specific item too.
http://www.google.com/

Cheers!
Kola

[rreidnauer]

Here's a few to start ya off.

http://www.aloghomestore.com/index.html
http://www.loghelp.com/
http://store.baileys-online.com/cgi-bin/baileys/cat.html

[maikz]

thaks for replays, i've looked from google and from all kind of wood working websites, but haven't found what i'm looking.

Tools should be for swedish cope saddle notch like here : http://www.cedar-log-homes.com/Log-Siding/Round_log_saddle_notch_cope_1.jpg.
i know that most work can be done with chainsaw, axe and with reciprocative saw, but do u know any other tools for making grooves. I've seen in one place something like this http://store.baileys-online.com/cgi-bin/baileys/5093?mv_session_id=LMbALwfK&product_sku=LS%209094 , it was bigger, blades were round shaped and it was attached to 9" angle drinder, because blades were round shaped, u can turn blades, no need for sharpening until u have finished 1 round with blades or if u kow any other, please let me know. Sorry if i'm confusing or my words doesn't make sense, english isn't my first language.

[rreidnauer]

No need to appologize for your English, it's darn good.

Not familure with the tool you're describing, but I do have something in mind that would work.

Search for "Lancelot" It's a saw chain loop that attaches to an angle grinder. The best way to use it, would be to cut slots with a chainsaw, along the log's length, where the notch is to be, to remove the major portion of material. Then use the Lancelot to do your fit and finish work.

Got to be REAL CAREFUL with either the tool you mention or the Lancelot. They make short work of flesh and muscle before you can even blink. :shock:

[maikz]

i did some serios research in google, and couldn't find anything better than lancelot(it does look like it can do the work), i did some work with googlesketch and i have 3D photo, maybe it gives better idea. but i'm not suprised if that something what's never produced before, just done by blacksmiths. it should fit to 9" grinder, but it's around 6" diam and 2" wide. http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb232/sirkuldar/groovy.jpg
what kind of tools u are using(pics or links would be super), or u don't need to make those kind of grooves.
Cheers,
Kuldar

[rreidnauer]

That looks a lot like the tool at the bottom of this webpage: http://www.loghelp.com/tools/special_attachments.html but theirs are smaller in diameter. (maybe 4~4.5 inches)

The students of LHBA are taught a method that does not involve coping or notching. We (the students) are taught to use "whole log" construction techniques, assembling with a unique "butt and pass" technique.

If you've stumbled into this forum via a google search, you may have missed the entire website describing the methods taught here. Go to http://www.loghomebuilders.org to read all about it, and pictures of student's completed homes.

[rreidnauer]

And there is this, but I wouldn't have the guts to put it on a angle grinder.

http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?cat=Power+Tool+Accessories&pid=00903214000 or
http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?cat=Power+Tool+Accessories&pid=00903217000

and the round bits to go with it: http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?cat=Power+Tool+Accessories&pid=00923311000

Also, RPM's got to be watched carefully. A blacksmith made device won't be proven.

[Kola]

wow..those look like lethal Chinese weapons!!!

I would rather build B&P anyday...but hey thats just me. :)

Student Kola 8)

[maikz]

Belive me, i don't fancy do use(cutting with chinese weapon) it either(i'm not sure i have choice). I did some log house building 5 years ago
http://www.hot.ee/heinleht/suured/Dscn0009.jpg
i co-worked/made that house, but now i want to get back into that trade and i have to go and prove myself for one company, if they are happy, then i have loads of work. But i just want to get all necessary tools for it.
But u are right Rod, i think i'm bit in wrong forum for my style of building. I do like that butt and pass, but here where i am(estonia, next sweden and finland)at least i haven't seen anyone doing it, just traditions or maybe there are some issues with insulation(-30celsius winter time).
that photos above and below are most popular log house types here.
Thanks a lot for your help and comments Rod and Kola. I found quite many interesting ideas from student log homes pics.
Kuldar

http://www.palkehitus.ee/files/galerii/vg009.jpg

[rreidnauer]

It's OK, we discuss it all. Don't be a stranger. I love taking on questions if I can provide an answer, regardless of the style.

Wow, those pictures are some pretty incredible work. If that place was in the USA, I'd dare to guess that those logs came off a milling machine from a kit manufacturer. You guys do beautiful work over there. It looks almost too perfect! :D I like that roofing material too. Never seen that before.

I got one question about the picture. The roof looks "thin" to me. (maybe an illusion, but looks like less than 6 inches/15 cm?) Is there an insulation cavity inside the structure, not seen from the outside? Or, do you just burn a bit more wood when it get cold?

[Kola]

Very nice work Kuldar!

I have a friend chiropractor in Sweden and I was considering purchasing land in Northern Sweden. It was a very remote mountain region and prices were very cheap. I decided against it as it was too darn cold.

Good luck in your journeys!
Kola

[maikz]

i wasn't included when roof was done, but i think inside there is another 6inches of insulation(there is no need to put a-frame to the edge of roof to make it heavey, that's why it looks thin. that roofing material seems to be some kind of roof tile imitation( thine metal sheets)

one question about B&P style, is there more detailed instructions abouti t on this webpage or u can only learn it when u attend courses. If there is any page, can u please post a link.
And can u list some tool what will be used to make that B&P.
I'm gaining interest about that style, so i might give a try at home.

[rreidnauer]

Ahhh, I figured that must of been how the roof was done.

No, you won't find too much detail on the construction techniques. That's pretty much done to prevent someone from trying to build this style with only part of the information needed for safely constructing a log home. Class attendance would be mandatory, and after taking the class, I understand why. There are some things which just can't be conveyed or taught via a website.

Tools are pretty basic. Besides common hand tools, you have a saw or two, sledge hammers, block and tackles, drills, line level, a few log dogs, cant hook or peavy, some basic masonry tools, etc. About the same stuff as you'd expect to build any other log home or barn, it's just a different technique. The main difference is, there's no tedious fitting of joints, since it's a chinked design.

Though, I'm sorry to say, the class is only taught in Washington state, USA.

[hawkiye]

You can gain quit a bit of info at the main site which is:

http://www.loghomebuilders.org

Blayne