Rough sawn timbers for a barn

[Neil]

Hi, I am new to the community and forum. I am working on plans for a 30' x 50' log home, and trying to see if I can make to the Nov 7 & 8th class.
over the weekend I finally realized I don't have the budget right now to build the house I am currently designing. So I thought lets just build a barn and live in it for a few years while working on the log home. Then I had the idea of using 4x8 rough sawn timbers laying them on the 8" side and screwing them together and use the butt and pass method at the corners. Maybe using some glue to help seal in between the timbers. Any thoughts on why not to do this? I am leaning towards the timbers at this point as I have found a fairly good source for them in Denver and have not had much luck locating a source for logs. I am near Colorado Springs.
Thanks

[cooper]

Flat on flat will wick moisture

[loghousenut]

Neil, I promise you one thing for certain. Once you take the class you will never again consider building your barn that way. I'd work but there are much better methods to put up a barn that your Gandkids will inherit.

Nothing wrong with having a temporary budgetary shortfall. Life is long and you will be building a home for family that you haven't even dreamed about yet.

As for that 30x50 that you are sketching and re-sketching, it'll all change once you've taken the class. Plan all you want, but I'm sure others will chime in here and agree that after class your plans will be completely different. If there is a Mrs. Neil, she oughta go to class with you.

[rreidnauer]

Yea, if using those barn beams, I'd use a modified stacking method. Two parallel with the next two perpendicular parallels on top of the first. Fill the gap with insulation, and a good thick mortar chink job to cover the insulation. If the chink line looks too wide for your liking, you could easily notch a little, a-la-Lincoln Log style. (notch depth determining chink line width)

Oh. And yea, you won't want to build 30x50 after the class. That was my original intent as well, which quickly changed.

[Neil]

Thanks for the advice, much appreciated.
Need to get myself in that class.

[Plumb Level]

Hi Neil - you are on the right forum if you want to build your own log home the right way.

I'd hold off on the barn and home til you take the class. Make it happen!

Colorado Springs....you can find logs. I found them here in Missouri. Class will give you some good ideas of how to track them down.

[dazedandconfused]

Maybe use the rough sawn for a quick pole building you could use for shelter, side it with something quick not sure how the codes are, can't see dumping a lot of money or time into something temporary, I built a practice shed after class to get an understanding how to do some things, it helped me a bunch and yes most things changed for me after class so heres how she looks now , not finished but getting there...



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[Neil]

signed up yesterday afternoon for Nov class, and got my plane ticket. 3 more weeks!

[panderson03]

congratulations Neil. big step. welcome to the family:) if your experience is anything like ours, the next 3 weeks will seem like the longest ever! sort of like waiting for Christmas when I was a kid:)

[loghousenut]

Well that was quick... I suppose you're another one of those fellows who's gonna start years after I started and get done years before I'm done. Glad to have you on board Neil.

[Neil]

Thanks
I held of on saying "like a kid waiting at Christmas" didn't want to seem over eager but that is exactly what it will be like hahaha. Not only is waiting going to be hard but getting the brain to shift gears and stop designing is a whole nother hurdle. maybe I will just start writing down all the questions that are in my head.

[Plumb Level]

Alright Neil!!!!!!

[loghousenut]

Thanks. Maybe I will just start writing down all the questions that are in my head.

Write them down if you want to, but some time before lunch on the first day of class you'll start having a hole different bunch of questions. I say just let it flow and try not to think of Santa Claus.

[John W]

Dazed - You can just 'feel' how solid that house is.

[edkemper]

Neil,

If you have a partner, make sure they come to the class. It makes all the difference in the world to have both onboard and understanding what we do.

Welcome to the family.