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Puckster
10-09-2012, 01:24 PM
I sthere any chance someone has pictures of the 30' x 30' standard plans that a member can buy? I am working hard on my wife to get on board with me and attend the class but need some leverage to get her to take the leap. Some actual stock type plan pics would really help as we both struggle to envision this. When I look at the member log builds they see either way bigger or different.
We have taped off this inside our house and it is just hard to visualize how things can be made to fit. The 30x30 with a half loft or such is what we hope to make fit
Cool site, looked at it for years and now I need to get my new bride on board with me. Please help me out !!!!!!!

Puck

Puckster
10-09-2012, 01:25 PM
I mean a home that was built using the plans - was not clear. Out and inside would be the cats meow! lol

Ellsworth
10-09-2012, 02:31 PM
http://www.loghomebuilders.org/student-log-home/a-home-in-the-pines

http://www.loghomebuilders.org/student-log-home/california-log-home

Puckster
10-09-2012, 06:28 PM
http://www.loghomebuilders.org/student-log-home/a-home-in-the-pines

http://www.loghomebuilders.org/student-log-home/california-log-home

Just what the doctor ordered - thank you Ellsworth !
You must have a secret stash of photos out there eh!

Soon as the lady gets some free time I shall plant her in front of the monitor. If these don't reinforce and seal the deal can I send her to you for some training? This should help us greatly in seeing the size is enough with just one floor and a loft.
I am guessing the stock plans are 1 story and loft and these were just taken to a roomier extra floor?? Truly cool.
Dumb question as I imagine it is unknown at this time but the one current class is currently scheduled and I am unsure if we can make it - isn't there, usually, one that follows in a few months?
I will get on the list and maybe a miracle could occur here and we can pull off this one even? Never say never unless it is a given never is my motto.

project
10-09-2012, 07:04 PM
Puckster we are in the same boat when it comes to being able to take the class. I'm always working on the days of the class and it has been that way for almost 2 years now. I have already placed all my days off on my iPhone for the next year so as soon as a class becomes available I can see if I'm working or not. Maybe we will end up in the same class.. Good luck

Mosseyme
10-10-2012, 05:30 PM
I believe that 2 story in the picture is pretty much the 30x30 Lhba stock plan as it comes. You can always leave off some layers of logs if you want a 1 story with loft.

Puckster
10-11-2012, 05:36 AM
Somewhat getting ahead of myself here yet curious - most of the homes posted on site seem to be disimilar in many ways to the stock plans and I have read all about the models that many have created so is it safe to guess that most folks get creative and think outside the box and design their own places? I can see all kinds of ideas and possiblities like a smaller footprint maybe but with a bumpout or two for maybe dining and a back bedroom so you could get 3 way views from windows, etc
Thinks like this fairly easy to incorporate and does one not bother with the stock plans then and hire out, do their own or some other method maybe?
Yes- "take the class" is a coming but trying to get her onboard and she's thinking cost, costs and more cost upfront and not 100% sold on all yet she says. arrrrghhhhh

Zetmandu
10-11-2012, 09:53 AM
Hi,
yes there are many designs that members use that variations from the stock plans but just keep in mind the more variations you make the more difficult the build in all likely hood but most that do that are still doing on their own. I am using the stock 30x30 plan but doing a few things differently on the inside. Not sure if the thread is on the members side or this side, but if you want to see a real variation then you should see the pics of the 8000 sq ft mansion ronnie is building in he mountains of NC

Blondie
10-11-2012, 11:25 AM
Punkster,

Yep. Here it comes, in the class...... Those of us without a wealth of prior constuction and log cabin experience find that building in a square is much EASIER. That is why all rhe basic plans are square. My is Blondie for a couple of reasons. Yes, I am Female and the biggest project to date is a yurt. So my building skills are very, very limited. Building square will be a challenge. :)

Blondie

Puckster
10-11-2012, 12:10 PM
Punkster,

Yep. Here it comes, in the class...... Those of us without a wealth of prior constuction and log cabin experience find that building in a square is much EASIER. That is why all rhe basic plans are square. My is Blondie for a couple of reasons. Yes, I am Female and the biggest project to date is a yurt. So my building skills are very, very limited. Building square will be a challenge. :)

Blondie

I bet ... no, I'd wager, you will be one who will do just fine. :D
I've built a few smaller scale cabin/cottages in past with friends but they were stick structures and logs are no doubt different. I really don't anticipate thinking outside the basic box much, just some charactor changes per se to be slightly different. If it entails loads of work beyond what I already am envisioning to be loads of work .... it may not happen. ;)

BTW - I really dig yurts. Spent a few weeks hiding out in one in WA on the Sound. Cool Cool Cool

Zetmandu ---- say what! 8000 sf ??? I was in a place once that was similar sized and they had intercoms to converse. It was crazy.
8000 sf and log ..... Holy Termites Carpenter! wowee

Mosseyme
10-11-2012, 06:39 PM
When I first came across this site in 2009 I was searching for some place, anything, that would help us in our plan to build a log cabin from our own logs. We were going to wing it if we had to and would have made many major mistakes. Yes we would have had a cabin, but with many maintanence, and possibly structural problems. Just weeks before we would have started making a lot of mistakes I came across this site. I knew instantly that this was the help we needed and even then I didn't have a clue how much help it would be. You can not have a question that someone has not already dealt with and will chime in to give you help on. We did buy the stock plans and are using them for the basic info we need for building our home. We are changing the size due to space limitations and are basicly blending the 30x30 for the width and 35x35 for the length of the home because we need a little more space on the ground floor than we get with the 30 x 30 and we don't have the space for 35x35 due to water on 3 sides and a steep hillside on the other. We will lower the 2nd floor by at least 1/2 the full height because we want less prominence in the forest. That is the beauty of these plans, they give you what you need but are easily modified to what you want. The interior is pretty much open to change in almost any way you personally wish. By the way I gave up my 40th anniversary trip to Ireland to go to the class per my request and am glad I did. There is a lot I do mean a lot of very hard work involved if you plan to do it yourself. We are doing it almost all ourselves including the logging on the very steep mountainsides of W NC felling and hauling in 36" logs that are up to 60' long. Believe me it has been hard and we are only to the point of pouring our footers and hopefully our walls in the next few weeks. I dare say few have put in more blood sweat and tears to get to this point but we continue to move forward and "God willing and the creek don't rise" we will have our retirement home with no mortage by the time we retire. I must hurry because we are in our 60's and time, it is no respecter of anyone. Oh and it is highly recommended by the instructors that you DO NOT BECOME LOGGERS.

Blondie
10-11-2012, 08:59 PM
Puckster,
My property is 480 odd miles from my current home. I didn't feel like living in a pup tent or a tin can trailer so I am building a 30ft in diameter yurt. Yep, from scratch. I will have most of the necessary creature comforts. Propane heater on a thermostat, propane hot water heater, composting toilet, real frig, real freezer, big screen TV and internet. All off the grid. I will have a solar powered well and a generator back up.

I have picked up some 4 and 5 ft wide sliding glass doors and will place them on the north side out of the sun.

Blondie

LogHomeFeverDan
10-22-2012, 11:04 AM
I am so eager to read and so eager to get the "ball rolling" so to speak. It was simply not an option to attend the upcoming November class. The most frustrating part for me I guess is the patience to wait til a 2013 class is announced. I'd so love to start developing contacts in the western NC area. Tons of ideas floating around yet I know many of our initial plans will probably change after attending the class. We are closing on our property in the next week or so. I know I know, maybe we are jumping the gun on having our property already but the deal we got was simply too good to pass up. It is normal to start "seeing" trees in more of a "nice log" potential than simply trees at this stage? I know I am watching auction announcements and building supply sales to seek those unique items we'd like to incorporate into our home. We are both in our 50's but would just LOVE to have our mortgage free retirement home completed prior to our 60's. I know this is rambling but it's my mind on overdrive. Thanks again to all who contribute here! It sure is nice to get......input.

Zetmandu
10-22-2012, 12:26 PM
One thing i can answer for sure, its that, yes, definitely you will look at trees in a whole different way now and before long you will start looking at logging trucks going by you and trying to remember the telephone number and name on the side of the truck

LogHomeFeverDan
10-22-2012, 03:42 PM
LOL Zet, although I've not actually attempted to remember the phone numbers on the trucks I have realized I'm DEFINITELY paying attention when I see logging trucks.

Mosseyme
10-22-2012, 07:07 PM
Dan,
Did you say somewhere else where you are buying land. Yes there are several of us in WNC. Look forward to getting aquainted.

marvlus
10-23-2012, 06:13 AM
It is normal to start "seeing" trees in more of a "nice log" potential than simply trees at this stage? I

It must be because I am doing the same thing. No matter where I am, even if the trees are not on my property! ;) You will enjoy the class, but it is intense, 22 hours of teaching over two days. One of the best classes I've been in and it is great to be in a group where all have the same goals in mind.

LogHomeFeverDan
10-23-2012, 11:23 AM
We will close on just a smidgeon under 9 acres this week or next week. The location is about 13 miles by curvy roads from Lake Lure NC. Yeah I need to get to the class and come see if I can lend a hand an soak up some more from your fine folks who are a few steps ahead.

panderson03
10-23-2012, 11:47 AM
congratulations!! we had our land before we took the class, too

rckclmbr428
10-23-2012, 04:20 PM
Loghomedan
Dont get to worked up, there its a lot going on down your way. I have a 9000sqft place going in near sylva and there's at least 2 other members that have built down there. Lotsof resources are already in place in your neck of the woods

blane
10-23-2012, 05:54 PM
Hi Dan,
Im in your back yard, so to speak. There are a few of us in your area that can help you find resources. I am near Waynesville and here is a shot of my place a month ago. The windows and door are all done now.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-rEEpMQY84VQ/UE518CpFuiI/AAAAAAAACvY/pfl2AVOZM4s/s1600/IMG_2732.JPG

Mosseyme
10-23-2012, 06:32 PM
Lake Lure,
Beautiful place,
I have an old painting done in 1930, hanging in my living room.
1968, watersking trip, first date with the other half of this older couple!!

LogHomeFeverDan
10-24-2012, 04:39 PM
Wow all!!! TY!!! There are some members in our neck of the woods. I can't help but get "worked up". I keep telling myself every day, patience Dan patience. Blane, awesome pic!!! Looks great! I guess it's hard to imagine a 9000 sq footer!!, but I've heard rumors of it being close enough to visit once I get to the class. Once I do attend I hope each of you won't mind a visit.

LogHomeFeverDan
10-24-2012, 04:47 PM
Ack I still can't find the "edit" button. Mossey yeah Lake Lure itself is gorgeous! Of course property goes sky high the closer you get to the lake. We were up this past weekend. We're about three hours away presently. They still had the holes from our perc test. I'd really like to go off grid with our new log home but we already have underground utilities and paved road. We've still not been able to have long enough access to think about building sites. Not real sure I'd want to run the utilities far from the post so we may be limited. I've been reading as much as possible on here so I've also scaled back on my pre conceived ideas til I take the class. We'd like to have a full below grade basement, leaning towards ICF's and 10 or 12 inch walls. I am building my first aquaponics system and may push the size to make a small business. Also looking into raising rabbits for meat as there is a processor in Greenville, SC. I'm also looking at raising worms and beekeeping. Really looking forward to being self sufficient. LOL Just haven't figured out how to incorporate dairy, eggs, and bacon! I gotta have milk and bacon!!!!

rckclmbr428
10-24-2012, 05:20 PM
Heres a few of the "Big House" going up. The first one is before the last 8' of wall was put on it
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk122/rckclmbr428/IMAG1414.jpg
Finished walls
http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg489/rhiconstruction/Wallsetcomplete005_zps8e9f5be8.jpg
55' tall support log going in
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk122/rckclmbr428/IMAG1403.jpg
Theres more pics on my site

LogHomeFeverDan
10-24-2012, 05:27 PM
Holy Log Lovers Batman!!! Dare I ask what you did for a foundation???? Dig down to bedrock??? Gotta say that is impressive!

blane
10-24-2012, 05:51 PM
Child's Play:) Impressive huh.

rckclmbr428
10-24-2012, 05:53 PM
Lotsa concrete

loghousenut
10-25-2012, 08:45 AM
Here's an aerial photo of the site just before they started pouring footings


http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t55/loghousenut/big-hole-udachnaya-pipe.jpg


As I understand it, the biggest headache of that job is organizing the crews to work together. They have two different time zones to work with and all those lunches and breaks take twice as much time as they oughta.







haha

John W
10-25-2012, 02:07 PM
To make the math work, just round numbers, that's about a 50 X 60 times three stories. Wow. Is that a dog door or can a person walk through it? Hard to grasp the scale.

History:
1. Buy limestone quarry and mining equipment
2. Build cement plant to produce enough cement for foundation.
3. Lease 50 cement trucks for the month.

rreidnauer
10-25-2012, 06:27 PM
Is that a dog door or can a person walk through it? Hard to grasp the scale.
In the third photo, you can see the yet-to-be fully cutout door opening behind the guy on the right.


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FishingAddict
10-26-2012, 04:54 AM
In the third photo, you can see the yet-to-be fully cutout door opening behind the guy on the right.


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Massive place. Looks, well, almost to big if I dare say so but guess ye builds what the customer wants so I gets it. :o

Where these trees that had died off Rod or were they taken down for this specific home? I cannot fathom the amount of bf of lumber these logs would be if milled. Massive amount of stick lumber for sure whatever it be

Timberwolf
10-26-2012, 05:01 AM
In the third photo, you can see the yet-to-be fully cutout door opening behind the guy on the right.


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Yeah, and isn't he like 6'9" or something? Never mind him, Look at the circular saw in the foreground, it's bigger than the chainsaws lying around.

Ronnie's competing with the local ledgend of lore around my neck of the woods.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Joe_Mufferaw

Google it. I dares ya!

LogHomeFeverDan
10-26-2012, 07:46 AM
Here's an aerial photo of the site just before they started pouring footings


http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t55/loghousenut/big-hole-udachnaya-pipe.jpg


As I understand it, the biggest headache of that job is organizing the crews to work together. They have two different time zones to work with and all those lunches and breaks take twice as much time as they oughta.







haha

Now this is funny Idon'tcarewhoyouare!

LogHomeFeverDan
10-26-2012, 07:51 AM
Child's Play:) Impressive huh.

I sooooo want to see the 2013 first class schedule. <in my best older than me voice> "Sonny, see that thar moun...er....log home, some day I'm gonna touch that home!" ;)