Gun Safe

[BoFuller]

I just decided that the number of firearms added to the number of grandchildren has exceeded the safety level. I need a gun safe.
Any recommendations from you that have them? I really like Patriot, but they cost a pretty penny.

[rreidnauer]

I mentioned it before, there is only one gun safe that is truly a safe, and not just a pretty face.

Sturdy Gun Safe Mfg out of Fresno, CA

[jrdavis]

well, I'm pretty happy with my Winchester.
Got it from LHN's store and it was a pretty good deal.

almost time for a new one.......
JD

[project]

http://www.libertysafe.com/products-liberty-safes-pt-1.html

its the safe I use..

[edkemper]

Home Depot sold Centurion Safes, by Liberty. I bought one at christmas twice. Christmas because they went on sale cheap each year. I have no complaints and they each claim to hold about 20 long guns. No one is walking off with them (approx 500# each) and only a pro will be able to get into them without the combinations. Best thing I ever did for my security and safety for family keepsakes.

[John W]

I'm not an expensive gun case guy, but then, I'm not an expensive gun guy. I have three of my grandfather's guns from the 30's - 50's, but they're all in the $300-$400 range, nothing special in the gun world, just sentimental value. So I've just got the $99 5 gun special from Wal-Mart. I just have to realize it's the minimum and will only keep the honest people honest. I really just got it to keep them locked up when the kids were younger. And if the house burns, warn the fire department that there are several hundred rounds of ammo that are going to cook off.

[5Solas]

I mentioned it before, there is only one gun safe that is truly a safe, and not just a pretty face.

Sturdy Gun Safe Mfg out of Fresno, CA

+1 to this. I don't have one yet but with all the research that I've conducted it seems far and away to highest quality safe for the price-point.

RR, which size and interior do you have?

[rreidnauer]

Yup, to all, do the research. I don't have one yet either. But I plan on getting model 3627 with the standard "#2" interior once the home is built.

[jasonfromutah]

I own a lot of guns and started researching gun safes. I looked and researched off and on for a few years. I finally ordered one online from Patriot Safes.
To say I am pleased is an understatement. You can actually put in an online bid for a new safe. I did, and got a nice keybad safe delivered to my door. The
quality exceeds or equals most that I researched and the price I paid was excellent. I have around 25 guns in it. It also has led lights inside it as well.

The construction and design is excellent! Research them, and look what they have. I need another safe for personal belongings and I will be buying from them again!!

[Vern Street]

Just another thought... After experiencing the terrible wildfires here in Oklahoma two weeks ago, I have something to add that you may not have thought about! Our friends had a gun safe (don't remember the brand) that was in their business, which was a total loss. The safe was rated to 1500 degrees for 30 minutes or something like that, don't remember for sure. However, when they opened it, there was nothing but metal parts and ash - ammo exploded as well. Some of the guns were antique ones that Rick had just put in the safe after the death of his father about a month ago... Most everything in their building was ash and metal parts, and it was a metal building!

[rreidnauer]

Yup! Part of my point. Research safes carefully. While no safe is fireproof, there are significant performance differences between brands.

[loghousenut]

I've seen some log homes that went through a good hot fire. I'm thinking that 1500 degrees for 30 minutes might not be enough protection.

Maybe for a fire in town, where there's a good chance of a fireman's hose or two trying to cool things down a bit. But those "way out in the woods" fires where the house, and the garage, and the shop and every other thing within 100 yards burns and nobody is anywhere near it to slow it down... Well, the fire just wins that one.

I've seen steel fence posts, that were next to a firewood pile, that layed down on the ground due to heat and gravity. I've seen propane tanks completely split open and all the brass valves in puddles. I've seen kitchen sinks that were just warped, distorted cast iron, porcelain all flaked, off and the brass valves puddled.

I think a good gun safe will slow down the thieves and the heat, but if you live a ways out, it may not be enough. Then again, what do I know. My guns are all laying around in a completely irresponsible manner, where any thief or any disaster can easily claim them. Probably not a well thought out plan, eh?

[BoFuller]

Protection from fire is way down on my list. I want it to protect from thieves when we are away. I may even put it out in the 40 ft container.

[rreidnauer]

One of the great things about building my own home is, I can add a few special touches. Like hidden spaces, small closets, etc. A thief (or gov't) can't steal what they can't find!

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[donjuedo]

I agree, Rod. I'd ask you to share specifics, but that would defeat the purpose. In a century, your home may be featured on "If These Walls Could Talk, 2112".

[edkemper]

With fairly small houses and square construction, larger spaces are hard to hide. In a 2, 3 or 4,000 SF stick built home, it'd be easy. Then again, with property, we have many more choices beyond in the house.

Perhaps a well designed safe, laid down and sunk into concrete under the crawl space and through a hidden trap door in my floor would be a better choice?

[jasonfromutah]

Ed:

A framed, built in safe, would IMO be the best choice. If I was building again, I would design an enclosed "gun room" for sure!

[rreidnauer]

Perhaps a well designed safe, laid down and sunk into concrete under the crawl space and through a hidden trap door in my floor would be a better choice?

Funny you say that. I've been trying to figure out how to "elevator" a safe into a pit, in the event of fire or break-in. It's easy enough to trigger with today's alarm systems, it's just the mechanics that are a bit tricky. (especially the raising part after an event)

But a floor safe under a well disguised trap door is very good too. And even if found, it would be that much more difficult to breach, since the vulnerable sides are unexposed, and impossible to haul away.

[Emailmicahsmith]

I just decided that the number of firearms added to the number of grandchildren has exceeded the safety level. I need a gun safe.
Any recommendations from you that have them? I really like Patriot, but they cost a pretty penny.

I have a Sentry and I'm glad I did. holding 12 long guns and 6 pistols I was relived when it was left behind by burglars. It saved me thousands that day. I know its not something a bargain hunter like myself would normally say but never spend less on your safe than your most expensive firearm. you will thank yourself in a break-in or fire.

[A. Dacks]

Being in the market of a gun safe in the near future i came back to this thread to look at the brands suggest here. after doing a quick scan of the suggested safe manufactures websites , i found a forum discussing the same as here.

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=465833

they were disscusing sturdy safes and another company, which sell multipe manf. safes as well as vault doors and their own made ones. only reading the thread and scanning their site it seemed to me to be a company worthy of mention.

http://www.zykansafe.com/index.html

does anybody have any personal experience with them? i havent looked into them yet.ill probley do that tommorrow.

[rocklock]

I have a unique need for a gun safe that will house long (over 62 inches) guns as well as coins and stuff...

I keep my ammo elsewhere because I reload (I once worried that bad guys would limit access to ammo.) as well as I have a quantity of black powder. I have enough primers and lead for a lifetime.

I have yet found a safe that would work. I have planned to get my welder to cut the bottom and wield on about a 8" extension to the bottom...

But I am weird... My assault weapon is a flintlock blunderbuss with a 2 and 1/2 inch bell.

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s274/flintlock1/guns/b1.jpg
This was before the finish was applied... in-the-white.
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s274/flintlock1/guns/ab5.jpg

[Timberwolf]

I think I'd just build a concrete walled room in my basement with a steel door.

Hmmm... next house.

Dave, you're not weird. I think I'd be more scared to face you with your Blunderbuss than some n00b with an AK.

Now, let's see some pics of that home defense piece would ya!

[exsailor]

Dave,
You rock! I have the same problem with long guns, as I shoot black powder more than modern guns. By the way don't knock a blunderbuss filled with 00 Buck. It worked on the ratlines in the Revolutionary war.

[edkemper]

As someone in the process of moving, I have 2 large (20+guns each) safes by Liberty. Bought them on special from Home Depot at Christmas.

Now I have to move them. Heavy is great until you gotta move them. But with this move I will be able to bolt them to the concrete floor in the garage and run electrical to keep things dry inside. We'll keep my smaller office safe in the house for immediate needs.

[LogHomeFeverDan]

Has anyone seen the "safe doors"?? or better yet LOL priced them??? I've not I'm asking. Ok just googled.... can get one for under 1k. I'm really thinking that route. Another possibility is like I believe Rod said, a room you'd have to be James Bond to know how to access or even the location. I'm like Ed, I'd hate to have to move a gun safe. I believe we'll be living in our LBHA home until the Good Lord calls us to a better home, so I'm going to build it right.

[LogHomeFeverDan]

I have a unique need for a gun safe that will house long (over 62 inches) guns as well as coins and stuff...

I keep my ammo elsewhere because I reload (I once worried that bad guys would limit access to ammo.) as well as I have a quantity of black powder. I have enough primers and lead for a lifetime.

I have yet found a safe that would work. I have planned to get my welder to cut the bottom and wield on about a 8" extension to the bottom...

But I am weird... My assault weapon is a flintlock blunderbuss with a 2 and 1/2 inch bell.

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s274/flintlock1/guns/b1.jpg
This was before the finish was applied... in-the-white.
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s274/flintlock1/guns/ab5.jpg

This is suite!!!!! <misspell mine> Dave!! Is this a working model or wall hanger?? If yes have you fired this bad boy?? Can you carry it like a pirate?? (-;

[rocklock]

Yes, I have fired it... I used fg black powder(fairly slow) and worked up to 250 grans with #4 shot. I then started talking to some one and reloaded not paying enough attention.

It went off and just about broke something... It actually left a mark on my shoulder...
I found the problem, I reloaded with pistol powder - fffg. This was the last time I shot it... I will shoot it again some time soon because I need to reload some of my shot shells (10 and 12 gauge). I believe they are reliable but you never know besides it just really fun.

Below is a picture of the beginning components and the wood. The wood is a piece of very figured Oregon Myrtle (the money tree). Just thought you should know...

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s274/flintlock1/guns/a1.jpg

[LogHomeFeverDan]

Oh mah goodness!! You shaped it???

[rreidnauer]

Oh mah goodness!! You shaped it???Well, that was how it use to be done! :rolleyes:

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[rocklock]

Just one more picture.. If you want to see more go here...
http://s154.photobucket.com/albums/s274/flintlock1/
Then go to the guns sub album... Then go to page two... Hope this helps... There are 8 photo's of the blunderbuss.

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s274/flintlock1/guns/ab4.jpg

[edkemper]

I clicked on the link and got the following:

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /albums/s274/flintlock1/guns/ on this server.

[rocklock]

I changed the link... I got forbidden my self... I don't know why...

[Ellsworth]

I have had decent luck finding used safes on CL. I usually search using the words 'TL safe.'

Here's an example (http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/fuo/3550508038.html):


SAFE (TL-30) $500.00 obo 40"(h) x 28"(d) x 26"(w) Please call cell: Tom 425-761-XXXX The GEMOLOGIST is retiring

TL rated safes (http://www.thesafesource.com/safe_ratings.htm) are ideal imho. Very expensive unless you find a used one. At a wild guess the safe above sold new for about $8000 to $10,000. A locksmith would probably ask around $3000 for a used one.

[rckclmbr428]

I plan on a full basement, and in that full basement along the back wall will be a 4'x4' bumpout only about 6' tall. It will get framed right over, and access will be hidden behind a something large, like a gunsafe thats been bolted to the floor in front of it. Thats where really important stuff will be

[LogHomeFeverDan]

Ellsworth! Now that's a BUY!!! Thanks for the keywords. CL here I come......well....again! LOL

Rckclmbr! Precisely what I want to do. Not only make it "safe" but even if they were standing right in front of it, they'd not know it was there unless they were a family member.