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    NIAC Surviving a Catastrophic Power Outage Dec. 2018

    I thought there might be some value in calling attention to the DHS recent report: https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/fi...08%20FINAL.pdf
    I try, as much as possible, to not rely on the government for things crucial to my well being but I do tend to take notice when they take the time to inform the peons of a threat. It might be wise to think through your options when planning your build.
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    One of my fears as well, misplayed.

    - We are looking to put in a root cellar- right under our kitchen floor.
    - Also looking at greenhouse designs
    - either I'm getting a condensation induced water distiller ("waterseer") or I'm making one. Waiting on the waterseer folks to get back from their new year holiday, I guess.

    The one thing I haven't figure out is refrigeration. And I'm not an expert on preserving meat, so learning one of those things is on my list. An EMP would probably destroy electronics, so unless I had a backup solar system stored in my faraday cage, I'd be out of luck. Refrigeration was one of the main things we missed during the week-long power outage we had here a few years back.

    My cabin in Idaho was just down the street from Paris Ice caves. Pioneers used to get ice from these caves even in the summer- there's ice there year round. Here in the south, the ice is only lasts until the sun comes up, so I'll have to think about this one.
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    salt+smoke will cure most meats for a loooong time
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    Quote Originally Posted by rckclmbr428 View Post
    salt+smoke will cure most meats for a loooong time
    Yeah, I'd like to get proficient at processing all kinds of meat. I've got chickens, catfish, and other fish down. Don't know anything about squirrels, rabbits, deer, etc. My neighbor runs a deer processing business in his backyard- he's a retired butcher. He says during the busy season, he'll process hundreds of deer in a season. Says I can come over anytime and he'll let me volunteer for a day.

    No one at our house is on any meds, so that's a big plus if there's a major outage.
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    One thing I do stock up on is amoxicillin, it can be bought otc for fish or birds online. Same thing you get from the pharmacy. Pneumonia doesn't kill people anymore because they have access to antibiotics. Take access to them away and people will start dying a lot more
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    We can tons of fruits and vegetables - enough to last a long time. We havenít had meat for a long time, so refrigeration isnít a make or break deal with us.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mudflap View Post
    The one thing I haven't figure out is refrigeration.
    You don't have to figure out anything new. A spring house is what you need. Pick-up a used copy of Foxfire 4. https://www.amazon.com/Foxfire-Tradi.../dp/0385120877

    “We asked Harry if he likes a refrigerator more than his springhouse. He favored the springhouse. “You can keep things in here [the springhouse] for about five days. We've put our milk in here, and gone off and visited three or four days and come back, and the milk would still be sweet.”

    “Harry mentioned another advantage: “If you keep your stuff sealed up in a frigidaire and you put fish or something like that there, everything you've got will taste like fish. But in a springhouse, you see, the air's not compact and that don't happen. And the temperature wouldn't vary ten degrees.”

    “In the top of the springhouse is an air vent that measures about ten by twelve inches. “That gives it air. See, if I had it closed up in here, it would be like a refrigerator. It would condense and begin to get thick, You'd have dead air in here like a refrigerator. You ain't got much space in a refrigerator and the same old air stagnates, while here in a springhouse, it circulates. And if weren't for that vent, there'd be water dripping in here all day.”


    There's tons on free books/manuals out there. I've downloaded most of mine but here's a few links to get you started:
    https://www.offthegridnews.com/off-g...refrigeration/
    https://ftpmirror.your.org/pub/misc/...lp_112360_.pdf
    Drying overview: http://www.cals.uidaho.edu/edcomm/pdf/PNW/PNW0397.pdf
    Farm Food Preservation 1918: https://books.google.com/books?id=_s...page&q&f=false
    Cured, Smoked & Fermented Meats: https://books.google.com/books?id=OT...202004&f=false
    Dehydrating 1920: https://archive.org/details/dehydrat...20andr/page/n7
    Biltong maker plans: https://www.popularmechanics.co.za/h...cut-and-dried/
    PDF honeypot: http://www.armageddononline.org/PDF/


    And a few solar links as well:
    Sun angle: https://susdesign.com/sunangle/
    Power pack used by ham in Puerto Rico disaster: https://www.bioennopower.com/collect...-pack-bpp-m400
    Whole house: https://www.sol-ark.com/reviews/
    Portable gen: https://inergytek.com/
    Simple pump: https://www.simplepump.com/
    Solar food drying: https://www.aee-intec.at/0uploads/dateien553.pdf
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    perfect. I'm reviewing the links now.

    Bo- I was a vegetarian for about 2 years as a teen. Then my church sent me on a mission to New Zealand. while preparing to leave, my girlfriend invited me to a family BBQ. she was Tongan. There was lots of pig. Her father laughed when I said I was vegetarian and said in a Tongan accent "not many islanders will take a vegetarian seriously". So as not to offend him (6'2", 275 lbs), I dug in. But I only did it to appease him. honest. that pig was delicious. didn't want to offend. delicious pig. yum.

    Seriously, though, it takes less land - like 1/10, I think, to support a vegetarian lifestyle, than a meat eater. Protein is harder to come by, but you can do it with beans and eggs (if you're that kind of veggie).
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    I'm a big fan of vegans and vegetarians.

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    All the more steak and chops for me!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudflap View Post

    Seriously, though, it takes less land - like 1/10, I think, to support a vegetarian lifestyle, than a meat eater. Protein is harder to come by, but you can do it with beans and eggs (if you're that kind of veggie).
    I get more than enough protein from beans, eggs, kale, spinach, etc. Thereís more protein in a pound of kale than there is in a pound of steak. Not trying to convert anybody, cuz then the price of veggies would go up
    Just saying, Iím not at all worried about no meat, no dairy.
    At my checkups, my doctor says Iím the healthiest patient he has.


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