stainless steel and insulated lol love it and i would love to see your place in person and check out the sights!
stainless steel and insulated lol love it and i would love to see your place in person and check out the sights!
Just let me know when you plan to make the trip!
i sure will mrs len!!Originally Posted by Mrs. Len
My wife and I hope to go if she's up for it. She'll be great with child (due April 4th).
she sounds like a great woman
Hi there I am booked!! Coming from Oz and its going to be a long long flight!! It should probably feel weird doing this by myself but it doesnt LOL My dad is a retired builder and I have done a lot of renovations but this is a whole different ball game. Does anyone know if other Aussies have done this course in the past as our regulations and log availabilty is so different to the US. I am looking forward to meeting all the other people on course and also being able to get to the other side of the forum once I have attended. Apologies in advance for stupid questions, because once I think it I ask it
Welcome!
Welcome!
Welcome!
You are from Oz...Lolol Welcome anyhow! Lolol
I plan on being there. We are from Houston.
Speaking of stupid questions, do non members not get to post a profile pic or I am completely clueless on how to work this site??
Speaking of stupid questions, do non members not get to post a profile pic or I am completely clueless on how to work this site??
Doesn't matter... Take the class.
Every time I have strayed from the teachings of Skip Ellsworth it has cost me money.
I love the mask mandate. I hardly ever have to bruh my teeth anymore.
OK, I was just kidding. I suppose it matters to some folks about pictures and such but not to me. I say the real benefit of this site has more to do with building your own log home with your own hands, and less with pretty photos of pretty faces..... Don't get me wrong. Forty years ago I had a pretty face and I liked to look at pretty faces. I am past that and now I am about ugly things, like logs, and houses, and no mortgages, and sawdust.
You will like the member's side of this forum, Girl.
Every time I have strayed from the teachings of Skip Ellsworth it has cost me money.
I love the mask mandate. I hardly ever have to bruh my teeth anymore.
Oh gag. We didn't even have a mirror until I was a senior, so little Bro had no idea what he looked like. He's just basing that comment on what Mama said. And you know how biased Moms are.
Hey folks looking at signing up for the next class. Question first, if I am going to be building 2-3yrs from now , is it to soon to be taking the course.
I don't want to forget everything
Eric
Skip recommended the class be taken at least (2) years before building. No, it is not too early at all! When you go to class you do receive: giant log home building workbook and reference CD. In addition, you can take notes. You won't be forgetting, but applying what you have learned not long after the class.
Since classes are rarely taught, I'd advise you to sign up and take this one to insure you get to take one before you build!
Eric, I ditto what she said. Your heart is obviously in the right spot. It is a big head start to get your brain in the right spot so it can properly guide your wallet. You are way ahead of the game. Most folks think they want to build 3 months from now.
Take the class now. You won't regret it.
PS,,, Mrs. Len and I don't make a nickel from your admission fee. We are both living the dream for ourselves and in the middle of our prospective builds.
Every time I have strayed from the teachings of Skip Ellsworth it has cost me money.
I love the mask mandate. I hardly ever have to bruh my teeth anymore.
Hmmm, took me 4 years after the class to get debt free and property acquired, 6 years after to get utilities installed, and 8 years to begin work on the house. So, yea, 2~3 years out, definitely not too soon!
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After many years of lurking, I'm going to the class!
Glad to hear it. Welcome home.
Every time I have strayed from the teachings of Skip Ellsworth it has cost me money.
I love the mask mandate. I hardly ever have to bruh my teeth anymore.
welcome Aden
Congratulations, look forward to seeing you there
Well, we're about to sign up for the class in February! We just closed on our beautiful 8.6 acre lot in Florence NY (Tug Hill region, 40 miles north of Syracuse) a few weeks back, and now we are ready to get this started! We plan on a small 18x18 to start...bypassing any real need to bring a trailer on the land, etc...hopefully I can outsource the foundation pretty easily, and then secure the logs, build the walls and roof with some local help quickly, finish the inside, and be pretty much ready to start using the cabin come late summer.....I would assume safely that because this 18x18 size will make EVERYTHING a bit easier because the structure is pretty much the size of a free standing garage. The interior will be a basic open floor with a small loft.....Anyway, we are extremely excited!!!! We have a spring fed stream (year round) on the property, so I just need to get deal approved by the city codes, etc...we are right off of a county road with access to electric as well..I hope having electricity run to this structure won't be an issue...I've heard NY can be a code headache, although "upstate" is less of a headache for code I've heard....Looking forward to meeting some of you fine folks!
congratulations on taking the plunge, Dan!!! welcome!
Great to hear, look forward to meeting you and others who have posted they are going, too! Congratulations on your property, and feel free to bless us with pics of that great property, please!!! Spring fed streams are wonderful, would like to see that! As for your plans for the 18 X 18, does your County allow 324 sq feet buildings to live in without a permit? Curious, as some areas allow this, but many don't. Ours allows us to build up to 400 sq ft, with the restriction from it being allowed to be lived in. The little cabin my Len is building, is not going to be lived in, but will be an outbuilding as we are legally now living in a mobile (we got it free). This is allowed to be done while building and then the mobile will need to be moved. There are some situations allowing it to remain. At this point, we plan on selling it when the time comes to move into our log home.
Thank you for the message Mrs. Len. In the Tug Hill region, there is local consideration "on the books" that's pretty creative concerning "hunting cabins" or "seasonal dwellings" This "Western Adirondacks" region of NY has a long, well established history of small camps, cabins, and lodges...
I am certain an 18x18 can be "lived in" seasonally...seasonally is a term used loosely up in our area, so I'm sure we could live in the structure year round, but I would guess since it's so small, I could not take advantage of having phone and electric run to it as it is a "seasonal cabin" used for ""recreation"
We would love to be able to build an 18x18 cabin and have electric run to it, and plumbing installed using the well we plan to drill etc...but I don't know if this is possible...
I've placed a call into the code fellow there for the city of Florence (this is the city where our land is) and I'm just awaiting a call back.
If anyone has any info on this subject, it is greatly appreciated!
I just received a call back from the city of Florence's code guy...really nice fellow. You can build and live in something as small as a 12x12 here in Florence NY...As well, I explained the whole LHBA thing to him..he was very positive about it all! I explained that I would likely build an 18x18 to start, and I will for certain buy the 18x18 cabin plans when I attend the seminar in February..He told me there is no need for any engineering plans, but to just make sure that the plans are clearly detailed, etc...He told me the story of his brother building a true log cabin a few years back and that it is simply fantastic, so I believe I have found a winner in purchasing my land the Tug Hill region of NY!!
I can have electric run to this structure, and have the well drilled, etc...there's really no road blocks as to where I can build within the land, etc...he said that the one HUGE benefit to the Tug Hill region is the fact that the area is unusually blessed with miles of aquifers, and wells are never a problem...50'-100' deep is the average...
He told me that if I choose to build a larger cabin later on, I can turn this 18x18 cabin into a "work shed" (it will be a guest house) and there's no issues whatsoever! This is great!
This sounds like it's going to be a very simple deal as far as codes goes..I fell better and better about our choice for land all the time!
I like it!
Good luck on premade plans of that size. Think they have 30, 35, and 40 fters. But, you have full rights to the plans, so you can modify as you see fit.
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