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**rocklock** · 10-25-2013, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by DanBlue

Interesting fact: The food we buy in grocery stores travels an average of 2000 miles to get to the shelves....that is scary as hell..

Just a quick note... I went food shopping yesterday - in Hawaii. The cost is scary. A can of green olives in Washington was less than a buck - in Hawaii it was almost 4 bucks... In Washington I buy meat from a local meat market - local meat. I buy veg's from a stand that only get stuff he either grows or local guys come buy and sell extra stuff. I buy flour from a mill that has local sources.

I read a book about the adventures of eating stuff within 100 miles. It was scary. But in Washington it was very easy. In Hawaii, its impossible. In Washington I grow my own lettuce, herbs, garlic and much of my own berries.

So IMHO we must all do the best we can, when we can.

Best of luck

**Gomer** · 11-12-2013, 03:19 PM

I can grow and create most of what I want to eat but obviously not al.
'pose I can build a logger if I truly want to devote all it takes to it - but that's not gonna happen.
I can hire out a build, any build of any type and likely play GC on it, at least where I am. I'd still feel a lot of pride and get 'er done in a timely manner instead of fretting for a long time and letting the build own me. That's cheaper than a mortgage - but since my health if getting shaky, a lot more expensive in time and mental health
So my decision is likely different than yours Dan and very different from those who totally build their own.
I admire the manner in which each one of us accomplishes what is our ultimate end result - be it a stick-stone or log house.
Tally ho and a buildin' we all go.... cheers

**logguy** · 12-04-2013, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by rreidnauer

It doesn't? This is why you need to take the class!

I wonder if he had seen your build thread!

**Shark** · 12-04-2013, 04:15 PM

There is a reason why the most common reply is "take the class" because they teach 99% of what most people are asking about before taking the class.
It's well worth it.

We built our place starting in '07, moved in '09, and getting ready to move. Will be building a second one . It's hard work, but much less hard than paying off a 30 year mortgage on a stick built home that won't last 50 years.

**revid** · 10-11-2015, 01:30 AM

got a link to Vern and Sara Street's website? thanks

**2Determined2Quit** · 10-12-2015, 07:30 AM

Originally Posted by revid

got a link to Vern and Sara Street's website? thanks

http://www.vernstreet.com/loghome.htm

**rocklock** · 10-12-2015, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by DanBlue

stores travels an average of 2000 miles to get to the shelves.

Living in Pa you should be able to buy everything you need with in 100 miles or less - if you try...
I have 1 years food in my basement. I was at a store yesterday that was selling the very same kind of stuff for less than what I paid.
Even COSCO has emergency food in containers... Any place that sells bulk food can be used. I have my own flour (and other kinds of stuff) mill but it needs to be rotated and cooking potato soup is a challenge (leeks help).
My wife questioned my sanity when I planted fruit trees before I finished the roof... After eating peaches and plums for the last two years she understands... Wait until my cherry trees are heavily producing...
Everyone in Pa should have 5 apple trees and a ton of blue berries.